Re: Meet the Scorpion (Uphill's Build-Up)
That is one sweet ride. How much would you say you have in it? I want to start to modify mine in a similar fashion. What would you suggest to do first?
Historically speaking, lore from the dim and distant past has it that Dragons hoard treasure. I got a lot of ideas from the Forum Dragon
To me the first and most important decision is what you want to do with the rig. Once you've thought that out, modify to fill that need - with some circumspection and consideration for your budget and what you really want to change. Remember that Toyota did a great deal of research before they cranked out the FJC - don't tear down a wall until you know why it was put up.
At what point do you think you are adding too much extra weight to the FJ.
The "Two Buggies and an FJ" run was not what I expected it to be. My FJC is not designed to crawl rocks. Still, the run did tell me how far I could push it.
My real weight additions are the front (and soon rear) bumpers, skids and the coming fuel tank. Each of those adds strength or endurance to the rig that I'm trading for weight.
- Since a full extra fuel load for an expedition is 15 gallons, the 19 gallon tank is roughly a push for fuel weight. The extra metal isn't nearly as significant as the weight of fuel. Carrying it low drops my center of gravity. Carrying it on the roof raises it.
Fuel Weight in tank = Fuel Weight on roof
Benefit to tank = Lower COG
- It is a heavy bumper but this model of bumper has been on the road with FJ80's and other rigs for a LONG time. The design is proven and need for the winch housing, etc. aside, I wanted a bumper that would help the FJ survive a highway collision with a deer. (kangaroo = deer)
ARB weight vs Road Armor, etc is about the same. The minimalist bumpers don't provide the protection that I want and I am trading weight for protection.
+150 lbs (vs about 75 lbs for the minimalist bumper)
Fab Fours Rear Bumper
- Not on yet but soon. I want a swinging arm that will take the weight of the tire off of my rear door. That's important to me and may
eventually save my rear door. It's a vanity move to some extent because of the design characteristics that I find appealing. It also replaces the tupperware panels around the rear with steel plate.
+185 lbs (ARB, WARN, Bent Up, rear bumpers weigh about 75 lbs.)
- This is a weight neutral addition because the recovery gear on the roof was packed into 3 Pelican cases in the back and the Pelicans actually weigh more empty than the Tuffy. The tuffy does raise the COG but the back of my FJ isn't full of seldom used recovery gear.
Tuffy Box = Pelican Cases
- The ARB sliders weigh just about the same as any others and sliders save the rig so it's weight neutral - a necessity.
- The BudBuilt skids have saved my rig as well. A complete set of BudBuilt skids weighs in at a whopping 175 lbs. The more minimalist skid combos come in at 100 lbs but don't provide fuel tank protection, the cross member nor are they as wide.
175 lbs BudBuilt vs 100 lbs for minimalist skids
That's 260 pounds more weight than it might be if I went "minimalist"
. The trade off is more protection and lower COG.
I don't think that's a lot more weight. Less would be better but life is trade-offs. What do you think?