Yo fellow fj enthuiasts. I've been reading your forum for some time now and have decided to jump in with my two cents so here goes. I had a sunroof installer friend check out the fj at sema. Like everyone has reported yes the rear windows are fixed. However I doubt this may be the case when they come out into production and I'll tell you why. Check out the autospies sema pictures. Go to page 23. Now look at the picture of the driver side doors open. As you will see there is a tube shown that takes some wires from the frame of the truck to the rear door. Ok what wire could be in there? I can only think of 3 possibilities:
A) speaker wires, clearly no speaker shown in the rear door
B) Side air bag wires, I got no clue here. I thought they dropped down out of the roof, not from out of the door
C) Wires for rear power windows at production.
I think it's option C. If they don't then a lot of back seat folks will be gasping for fresh air with only front windows down and no sunroof. Toyota are you liastening? Don't be stupid. Build it with windows that open up and let fresh air in. Otherwise lots of folks will buy elsewhere.
Some months ago I spoke with a Toyota rep at their 1-800-give no info number. This guy was VERY knowledgeable. Of cource I grilled him about the rear windows and I'm certain he could not not say anything. However I got the feeling he knew some inside scoop. Without revealing any secrets he did tell me not to be surprised if Toyoya had some last minute surprises when the truck comes out into production. He also hinted that it may come out late December or early January.
Fyi I've had a deposit with a dealer for some months now along with a written agreement to sell it to me at msrp. He told me a about 10 days ago that his Toyota district rep had spoken to him that day. He was told he'd be able to do his order "preference" around the end of November and that he'd get his first truck (mine) around the end of December. He also said yes I would be able to order it made with the options I wanted and not just get what ever they ship to him. Let's hope so. I'll let ya'll know later on next week if this really happens.
Oh and the sunroof installer said there are ribs in the roof and a sunroof may not be possible. Also I've read there are speakers inside on the roof which also make it not possible. Not certain if all stereo systems come with these speakers.
Now I'd like to know some info and to see some pictures. Does anyone know if the front seats have inboard armrests? It "looks like" one is shown in the above mentioned Autospies picture and it looks like it's only on the drivers side. Does anyone know if they are on both front seats and can anyone send pictures of these armrests?
I'd like to know about the rear quarter wrap around windows. Do they really wrap around from the inside and does any one have pictures taken from the inside they could share? Please send pictures.
Regarding price I'd bet 22 for a base 2wd and 27-28 for a loaded up 4x4. Afterall the truck comes with no carpet, no leather, black wheels and the target buyer is the younger generation that doesn't make much money. All this should spell inexpensive.
Sorry for the long first message but I just wanted to make certain I covered all the bases. Happy trails folks!!!!
A) speaker wires, clearly no speaker shown in the rear door
B) Side air bag wires, I got no clue here. I thought they dropped down out of the roof, not from out of the door
C) Wires for rear power windows at production.
I think it's option C. If they don't then a lot of back seat folks will be gasping for fresh air with only front windows down and no sunroof. Toyota are you liastening? Don't be stupid. Build it with windows that open up and let fresh air in. Otherwise lots of folks will buy elsewhere.
Some months ago I spoke with a Toyota rep at their 1-800-give no info number. This guy was VERY knowledgeable. Of cource I grilled him about the rear windows and I'm certain he could not not say anything. However I got the feeling he knew some inside scoop. Without revealing any secrets he did tell me not to be surprised if Toyoya had some last minute surprises when the truck comes out into production. He also hinted that it may come out late December or early January.
Fyi I've had a deposit with a dealer for some months now along with a written agreement to sell it to me at msrp. He told me a about 10 days ago that his Toyota district rep had spoken to him that day. He was told he'd be able to do his order "preference" around the end of November and that he'd get his first truck (mine) around the end of December. He also said yes I would be able to order it made with the options I wanted and not just get what ever they ship to him. Let's hope so. I'll let ya'll know later on next week if this really happens.
Oh and the sunroof installer said there are ribs in the roof and a sunroof may not be possible. Also I've read there are speakers inside on the roof which also make it not possible. Not certain if all stereo systems come with these speakers.
Now I'd like to know some info and to see some pictures. Does anyone know if the front seats have inboard armrests? It "looks like" one is shown in the above mentioned Autospies picture and it looks like it's only on the drivers side. Does anyone know if they are on both front seats and can anyone send pictures of these armrests?
I'd like to know about the rear quarter wrap around windows. Do they really wrap around from the inside and does any one have pictures taken from the inside they could share? Please send pictures.
Regarding price I'd bet 22 for a base 2wd and 27-28 for a loaded up 4x4. Afterall the truck comes with no carpet, no leather, black wheels and the target buyer is the younger generation that doesn't make much money. All this should spell inexpensive.
Sorry for the long first message but I just wanted to make certain I covered all the bases. Happy trails folks!!!!