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Mornin' all..

Well, the WAAG basket arrived yesterday and I had to fight the urge to do the install until after my employees went home for the day. Once they were gone though, I made a bee line to the FJ and got to work..

The rack was pretty well packaged and arrived in excellent condition..


It took a while to get the rack and hardware cut out of the plastic wrap, but once I did, this is what I found...





Once together the brackets look like this...





While the rack was on the ground, I took the opportunity to stand in / on the basket. There was minimal flex and all in all, it supported my mass nicely. (sorry, no pics of this.)

I think the hardest part of the install was getting the basket on top of the roof. This definately requires a minimum of 2 people, 3 is better. I also found that bringing the basket over the back of the rig and walking it forward worked best. Make sure you have a blanket that covers your entire roof under the rack to avoid potential damage to your ride and the XS.



I was very happy to see that the basket fit inside the rack while I still had my FourTreks combo and hi-lift mounts in place. After spending the $$ on those mounts I was really worried that they would have to come off.

Once the basket is in place you can start placing the brackets. Having a second person on this step would make the process easier and faster. They could hold the basket in place while you get the bracket tightened. Remember to leave them loose so you can easily make adjustments when all the other brackets are in place.





The second hardest aspect to this install was getting the rack centered and level. Come to think of it, having an actual level probably would have made the process much easier.

This is what she looked like after the install..









All in all, I think the basket looks great. CruiserLarry did a nice job with the design and WAAG did a great job with the fabrication. The XS looks like it came from the factory and incorporates with the stock rack beautifully.

A couple things I'd like to add..
1) I was under the impression that the basket would sit flush with the top of the rack. As of now, it does not. (And yes Poker, it is below the stock antenna.) Seeing the rack in person, I don't think it looks too bad sitting high, but I'd definately be interested in seeing how it looks flush.

2) I'd like to see a few more brackets included. I'm sure 4 is sufficient, but 8 (one more per side and two in the rear) would be make me feel better. I'm sure time and use will settle my concerns.

3) An Air-Dam and ladder would be nice options.. ((nudge-nudge, guys at WAAG))
 

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Great write up and photos. Thanks for the documenting the experience from delivery to install :bigthumb:

And yes Poker, it is below the stock antenna.
Cool, thanks :bigthumb:


If I get one, I will harass them for more brackets even If I have to buy it. I'm no expert in physics but I just want piece of mind.

I can't wait to see some lights on that thing!


I know it will be asked.....how is the road noise?
 

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I can't wait to see some lights on that thing!


I know it will be asked.....how is the road noise?
Thanks E! I knew you'd be the first to comment in this thread. LOL...

I wish I had the $$ to add some lights right now. I think they'll look great. But alas, with the DV trip and the North Rim trip right around the corner, I need to save as much as possible. I really wish I could find me one of those money trees!

As for the noise, it is noticable, but not so much so that I can't stand it. It just gives me a reason to turn the radio up another notch or two. ;)

I'll definately add an air-dam as soon as one is available.
 

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It looks great man.

Can't wait to see it in person.

This looks like a really good solution for the stock racks.

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Looks like if they make it a little bigger and have the mounting holes matching the stock ones, it can replace the stock roof rack...
 

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Now, I must say that last week when I was talking to the WAAG guys, I was told that there were a total of 8 mounting brackets, but in reality, there are only four...


I need to correct myself on this point.. I just read over the email I received from Joel over at WAAG and found that I was mistaken in what he said.. In the email Joel stated that "There are a total of (8) clamp pieces..." He even states earlier in the email that there are only 4 clamps total.

Sorry for this misinformation. I'll edit my original post to correct my mistake.
 

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Very nice. My question is how much higher will this rack add to the stock rack? I just want to make sure this will clear the low garage. Thanks.
Best I can tell, the basket sits 1.75" to 2" higher in the front and rear and 1.25" higher at the center.

I spoke with Mike at WAAG after posting the original write up and he confirmed that they will be lengthening the mounting brackets so the basket will sit flush with the rack.
 

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I believe Oscarr's dad will have the replacement version on this Saturday.
The full rack is going to be completed by friday.We should have it on for the meet n' greet.The add-on basket looks killer.Nice write up on the install.
 

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Did you remove ALL your OEM crossbars? I noticed that Oscar Sr. had his on still.

I'm assuming if they made the basket flush, the crossbars will definitely have to be removed.
I hadn't even considered keeping the lower cross bars on so mine are off. Your question sparked my curiosity so I went out and checked to see if they would fit under the rack and sadly, they won't.

Adding cross bars to the back half of the rack is a suggestion I made to Mike at WAAG when we talked this morning. It may be a feature we see in future versions of this basket and the other racks as well.
 

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I saw the rack addition in person tonight and the prototype is pretty nice! It looks fairly stock. I agree that it would look nicer if it sits lower, but I really don't see how it would still be able to clear the Fourtreks.
 

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I had dinner with Brian at Sizzler. We were at the trail meeting.
 

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was wondering if we could see more pics of waag, and contact info for waag. love this set up... SO it just bolts on to the Existing rack correct? great job...
 

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I agree that it would look nicer if it sits lower, but I really don't see how it would still be able to clear the Fourtreks.
Tony, that was the first thing I checked.. The basket, regardless of how high or low it sets, will clear the mounts. My basket isn't centered in the rack (due to my laziness, not by design) and sets closer to the passenger side. Even when the rack is centered, there's room for the mounts.

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was wondering if we could see more pics of waag, and contact info for waag. love this set up... SO it just bolts on to the Existing rack correct? great job...
Sure, I have my FJ with me today so I'll take some more pics and post them.

You can contact WAAG via their website (WAAG.com : Grille Guards, Truck Racks, Plasma Cutting, Brass Bed Factory, Powder Coating & Tube Bending) or call them direct (818-989-5008).

Technically it does not "bolt" to the rack, it is attached using brackets which squeeze around the tubing, thus holding it firmly in place. Much like the FourTreks Hi-Lift mounts or the stock crossbars for that matter.

Total install should take less than an hour and really doesn't even require instructions. In fact, I'm guessing that if I took it off and put it back on a few times, I could get the time down to 15 minutes or less.

If I can do it, anyone can. :)
 

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Looks like if they make it a little bigger and have the mounting holes matching the stock ones, it can replace the stock roof rack...

Maybe a set of special brackets where the rack (as is) could be bolted to the stock mounting points?
 
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