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I want to surprise my Hubby for his birthday, so I ordered him a nice vinyl for his Black Diamond. I would like to top it off with a nice set of aftermarket wheels, I found these slick KMC XD140 in RED. Here are the specs.

  • Bolt Circle: 6x139.70
  • Size: 17x9 in.
  • Finish: Gloss Black Machined With Red Tint
  • Offset: -12
  • Centre Bore: 106.25 mm
  • Weight: 30 lb
Currently, he is rolling on stock rims NO LIFT with LT265/70R17 Goodyear Wrangles Duratrac Kevlar we just bought before Christmas.
Has anyone had these XD140's?
Do I need to consider spacers?
KMC emailed me to say they will fit but I am leary and would appreciate any advice before I place the order.


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I don’t know if those wheels will fit, but I do want to call out your thoughtful, imaginative gift ideas ?. I like the red wheels on a black truck!
 

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I want to surprise my Hubby for his birthday, so I ordered him a nice vinyl for his Black Diamond. I would like to top it off with a nice set of aftermarket wheels, I found these slick KMC XD140 in RED. Here are the specs.

  • Bolt Circle: 6x139.70
  • Size: 17x9 in.
  • Finish: Gloss Black Machined With Red Tint
  • Offset: -12
  • Centre Bore: 106.25 mm
  • Weight: 30 lb
Currently, he is rolling on stock rims NO LIFT with LT265/70R17 Goodyear Wrangles Duratrac Kevlar we just bought before Christmas.
Has anyone had these XD140's?
Do I need to consider spacers?
KMC emailed me to say they will fit but I am leary and would appreciate any advice before I place the order.


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Stock FJ wheels are 7.5" wide with 4.84" backspacing. These wheels are 9.0 wide with about 4.5" backspacing. What this means is the new wheels will move the rim/tire combination toward the street side by (1.50" + 0.34") or about 1.84" further outward. In addition, if you stay with a 265 width tire, I think a 9" rim is just way too wide (e.g. will look like what the lowriders do).

So....in my opinion with appropriate size tires for a 9" rim width you are looking at 285 minimum width and mostly 295/305/315 width to look right. Without a lift and moving almost 2 inches further toward the street side, I think it is very likely that when turning you will hit the body mount (e.g. requiring a body mount chop or modification). If you want to run new wheels with the 265 width tires that are currently on there, I would stick with a 7.0-8.0" width rim and backspacing in the 4.5 to 4.8" range.

I think it is awesome you are considering buying him new wheels, but in my mind this sort of thing is like trying to buy an engagement/wedding ring for your wife and there are a lot of ways to go wrong with regard to taste and future plans. I know I wouldnt want my wife choosing my wheels especially since any pushback would just make her feel bad and we would both be unhappy about it.
 

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[email protected],

Your photo of the vinyl wrap and the wheels looks great. I agree with Silfx the 9 inch wheels are a bit much for the 9 inch wheels plus you will need a body mount chop.

I have 17x9 +0 wheels on my FJ Cruiser with 285/70R-17 tires with a leveling kit and a body mount chop and I rub occasionally, not often or much but I do rub.
Going with a 17x9 -12 would stick out 1/2 inch further than the wheels on my FJ.

Here is a photo to give you an idea:



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Stock FJ wheels are 7.5" wide with 4.84" backspacing. These wheels are 9.0 wide with about 4.5" backspacing. What this means is the new wheels will move the rim/tire combination toward the street side by (1.50" + 0.34") or about 1.84" further outward. In addition, if you stay with a 265 width tire, I think a 9" rim is just way too wide (e.g. will look like what the lowriders do).

So....in my opinion with appropriate size tires for a 9" rim width you are looking at 285 minimum width and mostly 295/305/315 width to look right. Without a lift and moving almost 2 inches further toward the street side, I think it is very likely that when turning you will hit the body mount (e.g. requiring a body mount chop or modification). If you want to run new wheels with the 265 width tires that are currently on there, I would stick with a 7.0-8.0" width rim and backspacing in the 4.5 to 4.8" range.

I think it is awesome you are considering buying him new wheels, but in my mind this sort of thing is like trying to buy an engagement/wedding ring for your wife and there are a lot of ways to go wrong with regard to taste and future plans. I know I wouldnt want my wife choosing my wheels especially since any pushback would just make her feel bad and we would both be unhappy about it.
I can get the rim with these specifications. Please let me know if you think we would still need a body mount chop.

· Bolt Circle: 6x139.70
· Size: 17x8.5 in.
· Finish: Gloss Black Machined With Red Tint
· Offset: 18
· Centre Bore: 106.25 mm Gloss Black Machined With Red Tint
· Backspace: 5.46
 

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I think it is awesome you are considering buying him new wheels, but in my mind this sort of thing is like trying to buy an engagement/wedding ring for your wife and there are a lot of ways to go wrong with regard to taste and future plans. I know I wouldnt want my wife choosing my wheels especially since any pushback would just make her feel bad and we would both be unhappy about it.
This.
 

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[email protected],

Your photo of the vinyl wrap and the wheels looks great. I agree with Silfx the 9 inch wheels are a bit much for the 9 inch wheels plus you will need a body mount chop.

I have 17x9 +0 wheels on my FJ Cruiser with 285/70R-17 tires with a leveling kit and a body mount chop and I rub occasionally, not often or much but I do rub.
Going with a 17x9 -12 would stick out 1/2 inch further than the wheels on my FJ.

Here is a photo to give you an idea:



Please let us know if we can help.
I can get the rim with these specifications. Please let me know if you think we would still need a body mount chop.

· Bolt Circle: 6x139.70
· Size: 17x8.5 in.
· Finish: Gloss Black Machined With Red Tint
· Offset: 18
· Centre Bore: 106.25 mm Gloss Black Machined With Red Tint
· Backspace: 5.46
 

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Wow, what a gal. Wish my wife was this thoughtful. I think wheels are kind of a personal thing, i know I would not try picking shoes for my wife. Those are nice wheels tho. I would try to find a 0 or -6 offset with an 8.5 wheel, shouldn't need to modify anything and gives a wider stance. With the +18 offset you may want spacers to get the desired effect (personal preference).
 

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I can get the rim with these specifications. Please let me know if you think we would still need a body mount chop.

· Bolt Circle: 6x139.70
· Size: 17x8.5 in.
· Finish: Gloss Black Machined With Red Tint
· Offset: 18
· Centre Bore: 106.25 mm Gloss Black Machined With Red Tint
· Backspace: 5.46
Two things:

1. stock backspacing is 4.84". 5.46" backspacing that this wheel has will push the tire/rim combo about 5/8" inwards from the stock wheel and I am nearly certain will contact/rub the upper control arm (if I remember correctly there is about 3/8" spacing between between the OEM upper control arm (UCA) and the inner tire bulge).
2. 8" rim width is pushing it with a 265 width tire. 8.5" is too much.

My guidance is 4.1-4.8" backspacing; 7.0-7.5" width for a 265 width tire. If you are upgrading in size to a 285 width tire you can go to an 8-8.5" with wheel.

For example these would work:

And a lot of the Stealth Custom Series

And, of course Toyota offers a lot of good looking TRD wheels that would work


Here's the problem, you cant make a proper wheel decision in a vacuum and you must take into account, wheels, tires and suspension lift (and maybe axle gearing) at the same time. These are all interdependent.
 

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8.5" wheel is within most if not all 265 70 17 tire reccomended size. I, for now, run that tire on an 8.5" wheel. I do a fair amount of offroad in AZ desert, don't usually air down below 20ish psi, haven't had a problem yet, knock on wood.
 

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8.5" wheel is within most if not all 265 70 17 tire reccomended size. I, for now, run that tire on an 8.5" wheel. I do a fair amount of offroad in AZ desert, don't usually air down below 20ish psi, haven't had a problem yet, knock on wood.
yeah but that doesnt help with the backspacing problem....and as you imply you are only running the 265 width tire on an 8.5" rim for now....with I assume a plan to go with a larger oversize tire. Not real clear what her husband plans to do long term on tire size and that is my point.
 

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Agreed backspacing would be problematic. Kinda a rookie mistake, the FJ needed tires when I got it so I went with stock size ko2 only to buy the wheels a couple months later, so, for now 265s, but they work.
 

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Says they fit ?‍♂ I know I run KMC 137s and they fit fine
The first set she posted has 4.5" backspacing but 9" wide. pushing it almost 2 inches toward the streetside with no lift and 265 tires. Of course they fit yours....you are lifted and I would guess you have a BMC and are running something just slightly wider than 265.

Then she posted an 8.5" width but with 5.5" backspacing. Better width wise to deal with a 265...but too much backspacing.
 

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Sorry @Firemedic831...I think I am just catching up to what you are saying:

The KMC137 model comes in a 16" x 8" with 4.26" backspacing that would work with stock sized tires (265 width) and probably even 285 width without needing body mount chop. These would stick out about 1.1" further toward streetside. But they are 16" wheels and it looks like the OPs FJ has 17" wheels/tires currently and she isnt talking about replacing the tires yet....just the wheels.

The KMC137 also comes in a 17 x 9" with 4.53" backspacing and that is where I think with it will be too wide for a 265 tire and will push the tires/wheels out almost 2" (1.5"+0.31") from their current location. I think when you come that far out and if you increase size to 285 or 295 that would look much better on a 9" wide wheel, you have a very high likelihood of hitting the body mount.

Here are the specs.

 
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