I bought a 2008 Toyota FJ about two years ago. It's the best vehicle I have ever owned. Today, while parked at work, I found a note tucked under my front wiper that read - " buy American - build American". Is this happening to anyone else?
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Montero could be the best vehicle I have ever owned.
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"Who can forget the Pinto or the Vega?"
another interesting study in contrasts: those were "first forays" into small car manufacture in the US, by the two biggest auto companies in the world. Their shortcomings became the mantra/chant of everyone who argued against developing any more small cars in America. And it worked. (and was repeated again when the X-Cars had issues, and on and on).
Then the oil crisis hit, and the longest recession in American history, and the gradual improvement of those "ridiculous foreign (mostly Japanese) small cars", until they became the biggest auto companies in the world and the Big 3 had developed nothing to compete with them.
When Toyota first came to the US with their Toyopet in the '60s, it was also a dismal failure. Instead of giving up, or making excuses they used it as the rallying cry to improve, in every aspect, and to try again (the FJ40 tided them over for a few years). The car they came back with was the Corolla.
Interesting how an organization who embraces failure, to learn from it, finds future success, but those who run or hide from it don't.
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another interesting study in contrasts: those were "first forays" into small car manufacture in the US, by the two biggest auto companies in the world. Their shortcomings became the mantra/chant of everyone who argued against developing any more small cars in America. And it worked. (and was repeated again when the X-Cars had issues, and on and on).
Then the oil crisis hit, and the longest recession in American history, and the gradual improvement of those "ridiculous foreign (mostly Japanese) small cars", until they became the biggest auto companies in the world and the Big 3 had developed nothing to compete with them.
When Toyota first came to the US with their Toyopet in the '60s, it was also a dismal failure. Instead of giving up, or making excuses they used it as the rallying cry to improve, in every aspect, and to try again (the FJ40 tided them over for a few years). The car they came back with was the Corolla.
Interesting how an organization who embraces failure, to learn from it, finds future success, but those who run or hide from it don't.
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Buy american? What does that even mean anymore. You got Japanese cars built in the U.S and American cars built in Mexico.
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And most Toyotas sold in the US are made in "America" - FJ and Land Cruiser excluded. Any others?
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"Any others?"
The Avalon, Sienna, Tundra and Sequoia are all American (designed and manufactured here). The Camry, Highlander and Corolla are made in America, but are designed in Japan and also made and sold in other markets. The Lexus models are all designed in Japan, the RX and ES are made in the US and Canada, the IS, LS and SC (and the other ones also with meaningless letter names I can't remember) are designed and made in Japan.
The original Venza was designed and made in America.
The current generation of Tacoma was designed in America (its been made locally ever since the beginning of that nameplate). The 4-Runner is made and designed in Japan.
Two generations of the Camry (Gen4 and 5) were designed in the US, but the more recent generations were handed back to Japan so we could focus on the above models.
The Avalon, Sienna, Tundra and Sequoia are all American (designed and manufactured here). The Camry, Highlander and Corolla are made in America, but are designed in Japan and also made and sold in other markets. The Lexus models are all designed in Japan, the RX and ES are made in the US and Canada, the IS, LS and SC (and the other ones also with meaningless letter names I can't remember) are designed and made in Japan.
The original Venza was designed and made in America.
The current generation of Tacoma was designed in America (its been made locally ever since the beginning of that nameplate). The 4-Runner is made and designed in Japan.
Two generations of the Camry (Gen4 and 5) were designed in the US, but the more recent generations were handed back to Japan so we could focus on the above models.
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Well the you should have bought a Camry.
Uh...hello. Toyota just moved its North America headquarters to Plano, Texas!!!
www.toyota.com
So there you go!!! ‘murica! 🇺🇸
Toyota USA
www.toyota.com
So there you go!!! ‘murica! 🇺🇸
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My dad bought a Jeep and gave me the Rubicon tire cover, since it did not fit his tire size.
I use it on my FJ and I can tell you that people pull up next to me and tell me to buy a REAL jeep and then drive off, all of the time, for 10 + years now.
Sorry to say that American made is **** nowadays. All appliances are owned by 1 company, so all motors, heaters, in all appliances are complete crap. The ONLY thing you get with a "better" brand is a longer warranty. Just like batteries, they are all 100% identical, but you get coverage for WHEN it breaks, not if, for a longer period of time.
I use it on my FJ and I can tell you that people pull up next to me and tell me to buy a REAL jeep and then drive off, all of the time, for 10 + years now.
Sorry to say that American made is **** nowadays. All appliances are owned by 1 company, so all motors, heaters, in all appliances are complete crap. The ONLY thing you get with a "better" brand is a longer warranty. Just like batteries, they are all 100% identical, but you get coverage for WHEN it breaks, not if, for a longer period of time.
Buy American Build American is hilarious since we don't actually make anything from start to finish... I love my fj.. Assembled here..(Toyota factory in Georgia) So what I should buy a Corvette.. made in Canada or an F150 built in Mexico....Since 1930!!!!! gtfohwtbs!!
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My brothers are Ford diehards, yet they constantly hate on Tesla (which will be my next vehicle). Tesla is an American brand, built by American workers on American soil, yet they seem to want them to them to fail. I truly believe it’s because deep down, they understand Tesla is a superior vehicle with a superior power train, superior product and the cybertruck gonna’ “crush”.
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I had that happen when I was working for a union job but not just out of the blue LOL
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Sorry dude.......FJ's are built by Hino Motors in Hamura Japan.
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Its happen to recently on FB and Instagram! Don’t know what’s that about but I don’t care!
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my son did the cybertruck "preorder" for whatever that means. he is constantly telling me how much faster and cooler it will be than my FJ. i always tell him i'll race him from NY to Florida any day.
coincidentally, i just filled up my FJ about 2 hours ago. i got one of those slow-ass pumps at speedway. watching the numbers crank slowly by. damn! it took almost 5 minutes to fill my tank.
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