[manoweb]

Ok

 

[eha]

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[football751]

I'm curious if you have a source for this info?

No, nothing technical. This is just what I've read on this forum from multiple people. I know there are people with extensive oil knowledge on this forum that can give you a technical answer, hopefully one of them will chime in :cheers:

 

[AZFJ25]

Changing my Front/Rear and Transfer Case oil in the next week or two. I have a 2011 Automatic, do I also need to change the oil in that as well? I'm assuming the transfer case is separated from the automatic transmission oil?

 

[DEWFPO]

Changing my Front/Rear and Transfer Case oil in the next week or two. I have a 2011 Automatic, do I also need to change the oil in that as well? I'm assuming the transfer case is separated from the automatic transmission oil?

The 5AT and the transfer case are separate. Unless you've used the 4WD a lot the front diff and transfer case fluids will come out looking almost new. You can wait on those without worry but I would change the rear diff fluid.

DEWFPO

 

[AZFJ25]

Thanks DEWFPO, however to add to my peace of mind I'd rather change them at the same time. I probably have about 300+ miles on 4 wheel drive and I live in the desert, so I'd bet it wouldn't be bad to change the front and transfer case oils. This way, I got fresh oil in the main components that have been already serviced!

I appreciate the insight!!!

 

[Ivanhvg]

Hi Everyone! I´m new here , I live in Bogota , Colombia (south america). I was able to open all the 3 fill plugs for the Front/Rear diffs plus the tranfer case to check oil/levels. I I bought my automatic FJ 2009 w rear lock second hand so didn´t know what was going on the diffs..
What I saw was:
Front diff: Oil looked light green and very clear like new I suppose...
TC: Oil looked amber, (as if it was motor oil???)
Rear Diff: this one looked more white/gray than green.

All levels were OK, (oil just about the level of the fill hole, but the transfer case was overfilled I suppose, because as soon as I opened it started dripping oil. I left it drip until none came out. Was this ok?

My question is, this looks like they just did whatever they want?? (for example the fill plug for the front diff didn´t have any gasket, yeahh real professional!) and seems they used whatever oil they found, would you recommend changing all fluids using the same brand and characteristics?? (ex.. 75w 90),
Since I live in Colombia, I think the only one that should be easy to find is the Mobile1 oil. All other parts like gaskets I can order online in the US. I even order the torquemeter
What do you guys think?

 

[jayman]

the fill plug for the front diff didn´t have any gasket, yeahh real professional!) and seems they used whatever oil they found, would you recommend changing all fluids using the same brand and characteristics?? (ex.. 75w 90),

The front diff uses copper crush washers on the drain and fill plugs. As you have discovered, the recessed allen head plugs are a bit of a pain to get out

First time I changed my front diff fluid, I also assumed the factory forgot to put the crush washer on. I then used an LED flashlight to inspect and sure enough, the crush washer was still stuck to the cast iron differential

If the washers were indeed left off, you'd probably have oil seepage

I have traveled all over the world on business. Well, not to Columbia, but to Chile and Brazil. I have always maintained you should use whatever motor oil or gear oil most widely used by local garages, that way you are sure of having an easy time finding the oil and at a reasonable price

Those who chime in suggesting something like Amsoil should keep in mind that once you factor in international shipping and local excise taxes, the oil could easily be $20 a litre, even more.

The last thing you have to worry about is cold temperature performance. I live in a climate that can have -42 C in January. So I run a commercial synthetic 75W-90 that will work at that temperature

Ask around and find out what oil is most commonly used and sold. It will probably be a conventional 80W-90, perhaps even an 85W-140

The most common motor oil I have seen in Chile and Brazil, along with Mid East countries, is a 20W-50. Again, for your climate and operating conditions, that will be fine

The FJ sold in South America also has an external fuel filter that can be easily serviced. It is located in the engine bay. Our North America models have a "lifetime" fuel filter inside the fuel tank

Perhaps a local Toyota dealer will have the correct washers. The FJ is sold in Columbia

Toyota - FJ CRUISER M/T

So is the Land Cruiser 70. Very nice

Toyota - Land Cruiser 71 Cabinado Corto

If you have any questions on how to service your FJ please revisit the forum.

 

[DEWFPO]

Hi Everyone! I´m new here , I live in Bogota , Colombia (south america). I was able to open all the 3 fill plugs for the Front/Rear diffs plus the tranfer case to check oil/levels. I I bought my automatic FJ 2009 w rear lock second hand so didn´t know what was going on the diffs..
What I saw was:
Front diff: Oil looked light green and very clear like new I suppose...
TC: Oil looked amber, (as if it was motor oil???)
Rear Diff: this one looked more white/gray than green.

All levels were OK, (oil just about the level of the fill hole, but the transfer case was overfilled I suppose, because as soon as I opened it started dripping oil. I left it drip until none came out. Was this ok?

My question is, this looks like they just did whatever they want?? (for example the fill plug for the front diff didn´t have any gasket, yeahh real professional!) and seems they used whatever oil they found, would you recommend changing all fluids using the same brand and characteristics?? (ex.. 75w 90),
Since I live in Colombia, I think the only one that should be easy to find is the Mobile1 oil. All other parts like gaskets I can order online in the US. I even order the torquemeter
What do you guys think?

Welcome to the forum Ivanhvg,

Regarding the transfer case : as long as you checked the fluids with the vehicle on level ground you should be o.k.

Just because they didn't use new (or reuse) the plug gaskets doesn't mean they used inferior fluids. But, you can change them out and not worry about it. It's your time and money. The FJ doesn't care if you have one brand of fluid in the rear diff, and another brand in the transfer case. It doesn't even care if you have synthetic lube in the rear diff and dino lube in the front diff.

As long as the plugs don't leak you'll be fine, but I would add gaskets if they start to leak or at the time of your next fluid changeout.

Enjoy your FJ and post up some pics from Columbia.:cheers:

DEWFPO

 

[ftmyersfj]

If you have a 4x2 you'll need to use Mobile 1 in the rear diff (b/c of the LSD) and you don't have a transfer case or front diff.
.

Not true....I have a 4x2 and although I use Mobile 1 with the LSD, you do not have to. The 4x2 does not require an LSD additive because it is not a true limited slip differential.

 

[jayman]

Correct it is a "fake" LSD. There are no clutch plates in the diff. The system uses the wheel speed sensors, and applies the brake to the spinning wheel, to assist with traction

 

[Ivanhvg]

The front diff uses copper crush washers on the drain and fill plugs. As you have discovered, the recessed allen head plugs are a bit of a pain to get out

First time I changed my front diff fluid, I also assumed the factory forgot to put the crush washer on. I then used an LED flashlight to inspect and sure enough, the crush washer was still stuck to the cast iron differential

If the washers were indeed left off, you'd probably have oil seepage

I have traveled all over the world on business. Well, not to Columbia, but to Chile and Brazil. I have always maintained you should use whatever motor oil or gear oil most widely used by local garages, that way you are sure of having an easy time finding the oil and at a reasonable price

Those who chime in suggesting something like Amsoil should keep in mind that once you factor in international shipping and local excise taxes, the oil could easily be $20 a litre, even more.

The last thing you have to worry about is cold temperature performance. I live in a climate that can have -42 C in January. So I run a commercial synthetic 75W-90 that will work at that temperature

Ask around and find out what oil is most commonly used and sold. It will probably be a conventional 80W-90, perhaps even an 85W-140

The most common motor oil I have seen in Chile and Brazil, along with Mid East countries, is a 20W-50. Again, for your climate and operating conditions, that will be fine

The FJ sold in South America also has an external fuel filter that can be easily serviced. It is located in the engine bay. Our North America models have a "lifetime" fuel filter inside the fuel tank

Perhaps a local Toyota dealer will have the correct washers. The FJ is sold in Columbia

Toyota - FJ CRUISER M/T

So is the Land Cruiser 70. Very nice

Toyota - Land Cruiser 71 Cabinado Corto

If you have any questions on how to service your FJ please revisit the forum.

Thanks!! I will check this weekend when I chage oils wether the washer is stuck!
About the Oil type, I will ask around, I called the dealership and they say it´s an oil they bring from japan. Probably , I don´t know , but i woudl rather see what everyone else is using here.

Good tip around the Fuel filter! I was however unable to find it I have seen them in other vehicles but i missed it in this one, I ll give it another look this weekend if Ican tracefuel lines.

About the washers I already order them from purefjcruiser.com, for all engine oil, diffs and tranfer case. The dealership here is the biggest all time rip off.

the land cruiser 70 is the best vehicle suited for Colombias topography, if you have the time and understand a little spanish I recommend you watch this link:

Agenda CM& HÉROES DEL ORINOCO Parte 2 de 2 - YouTube!

Thanks for your help!

 

[DEWFPO]

Good tip around the Fuel filter! I was however unable to find it I have seen them in other vehicles but i missed it in this one, I ll give it another look this weekend if Ican tracefuel lines.

Look at the picture in the first post of this thread for the non-USA fuel filter location.

http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/foru...ms.com/forums/maintenance-tech/112099-q-where-fuel-filter-toyota-fj-2009-a.html

DEWFPO

 

[Ivanhvg]

Look at the picture in the first post of this thread for the non-USA fuel filter location.

http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/foru...ms.com/forums/maintenance-tech/112099-q-where-fuel-filter-toyota-fj-2009-a.html

DEWFPO

Thanks for the info!! I see it now.
Don´t have pics from Colombia with my FJ on it but i will post when I have them , in the mean time this is my FJ.

Thanks!

 

[DEWFPO]

Nice pics. Looks like you have OE tires on the FJ. If you drive thru mud a lot you may want to consider getting something more aggressive, unless the stockers are working for you.

DEWFPO

 

[Ivanhvg]

Thanks! Yes tires are next... I´m not sure with so many options out there.... Not sure if i want to have a seperate set of tires/wheels for when I go off road, or not.

Tks,

 

[Ivanhvg]

I was wondering , if I switch to synthetic motor oil, I would need to also change the oil filter type?. I have two OEM oil filters in my garage , can I simply just switch to say Amsoil 0w 30? Or do I need to change oil filter types as well?

(Let me guys know if should post this in a differetn thread/discussion)

Tks!

 

[Ivanhvg]

Actually Amsoil is not sold here. Something more like Mobile1 5w 30. The oil filters that I have are the original Toyota filters.

Tks,

 

[manoweb]

For sure I would never use a Toyota filter, I switched immediately to a big capacity Mobil1 filter

 

[Ivanhvg]

For sure I would never use a Toyota filter, I switched immediately to a big capacity Mobil1 filter

I see tks!... I' m new to all of this. I have read a lot off good comments on Mobile 1 products. , since for me is hard to get a filter where I live. Would you have advice for a part number or reference filter that will work with my 2009 Fj cruiser? I can easily order online.

Thanks!!