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2008 FJ Cruiser 4x4 Shifting issues after routine maintenance

3.8K views 23 replies 11 participants last post by  ZerosFJ  
#1 ·
Good afternoon all,

I have a 2008 FJ 4x4 with an automatic Transmission. Yesterday I changed out the oil, filter, air filter, battery and drained and filled the transfer case fluid. After starting the FJ and re-setting the MAINT. REQ. warning, I went for a drive. I immediately noticed that after stepping on the gas the rpms went up some but it took about three seconds for first gear to engage. It seems to happen in second as well but once i get up to speed it alright. The new battery provides 750 CCA's and I used 75W-90 synthetic gear oil for the transfer case. I had the tires rotated a firestone today and had the tech check the transfer case fluid level to ensure it was good to go. Any ideas or advice?
 
#2 ·
The transfer box require 75W oil.

But this should not effect the gearbox shifting. As you don’t mention that you did a drain and fill of the ATF perhaps the two events are actually unrelated?
 
#8 · (Edited)
Almost certainly you accidentally drained the transmission oil pan instead of the transfer case, and now the transmission is grossly low on ATF.

Accidentally draining the transmission pan is the ONLY thing that will cause the transmission to shift the way you describe. Happening after a stop or a sharp turn absolutely confirms it, as the ATF level in the pan is so low that the fluid sloshes away from the pump pickup tube and then line pressure instantly drops and the clutches start slipping.

STOP DRIVING IMMEDIATELY !!!!

If you continue to drive with the transmission 3+ quarts low on ATF, and the transmission slips in any gear, you will burn up the clutch packs almost immediately and destroy the transmission.


Was this the first time you serviced the transfer case gear oil?
 
#9 ·
Yeah... my money is on accidentally draining the transmission as well (not a rare occurrence unfortunately).

Check your engine oil level and you will be able to easily verify if you didn't drain it... AND added oil to it. It may be grossly overfilled now (as well as the transmission being low now).
 
#10 ·
I think he drained the AT pan and added an extra quart of gear oil to the transfer case.

This will be a little harder to confirm than if he added another 6 quarts of oil to the engine. He's going to have to drain the transfer case and see if 2.2 quarts come out.

Then, take the time to PROPERLY refill the transmission to the correct level using WS ATF.

There was at least one prior case on this forum where someone drained the transmission pan, and added another 6 quarts of engine oil to the engine sump. The transmission problem symptoms were identical.
 
#11 ·
I think he drained the AT pan and added an extra quart of gear oil to the transfer case.
It is very difficult to overfill the transfer case if you use the fill plug. The correct level is when the oil runs out the fill plug hole.
It sure sounds like the automatic transmission pan was drained but probably when trying to drain the engine oil. That is easier to mix up. The transfer case drain and fill plugs are pretty straight forward and not easy to confuse with anything else.
 
#14 ·
Thank you for your replies. In regards to the transfer case, there are only two plugs. One on the lower left for drain and one on upper right for fill. I loosened the fill plug and drained the crankcase. I refilled roughy 1.5 quarts of 75W-90 synthetic gear oil.I may found the problem. I neglected to put the gasket back on the fill plug. Looking into it now.
 
#18 ·
A few years ago there was a seemingly identical incident ... FJ owner was attempting his own preventive maintenance for the first time, accidentally drained the AT pan instead of the engine pan, added another 6 quarts of oil to the engine, fired it up and attempted to drive away.

His AT mis-shifting symptoms were absolutely identical to what the OP in this thread described.

He did come clean and admit what had happened.
 
#19 ·
You a we're correct upon triple checking. I see that I drained the automatic transmission pan. I have now drained the correct oil pan and changed filter (again). Found the fill plug for ATF WS and added almost 4 quarts until that red fluid started to leak out of the fill check plug. Test drove,, zero issues.. FJ is back in action. You folks are super helpful. Thanks again!
 
#22 ·
When adding ATF and verifying fluid level via the overflow port, you did make sure that the vehicle was level, the ATF was at operating temperature, and the engine was running, correct?

Simply adding cold ATF to transmission with the engine off until it runs out the check plug will NOT give the correct fluid level.


If ATF is not at operating temperature, correct level cannot be set ... Toyota is very specific about this.

If engine is not running when you check the level, ATF will have drained back into the pan from the transmission cooler and show an incorrectly high level at the check plug, and when the engine is started and ATF fills all the lines, the fluid will once again be lower than it is supposed to be.