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Cold Start Whine, Mechanic says Torque Converter?

625 views 6 replies 4 participants last post by  Kaiju  
#1 ·
Hey FJ fam,

I’ve got an ‘08 FJ Cruiser (177k miles). On the first cold start of the day, I get a low whining sound that disappears once the engine warms or I shift into gear. No issues once driving, no codes, and shifts feel fine.


My mechanic says it’s probably the torque converter. Anyone experience this before it failed? Did a fluid flush help? Would love to hear how others handled it.


Thanks,
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#3 ·
A cold-start whine can also be caused by the power steering pump, the alternator, or any of the serpentine belt idler pulleys.

Remove the serpentine belt when the engine is cold, and then start the engine. If the whine is still there, then you've isolated it to the engine or transmission.

If the whine disappeared, replace the serpentine belt, restart the engine, and use a mechanic's stethoscope ()or a 2' long piece of 3/8" wooden dowel) and probe PS pump, alternator, AC compressor, etc. to determine exactly where the whine originates.
 
#5 ·
At a cold start, the engine will be running at high idle speed, (maybe 1,200 to 1.500 RPM).

Shifting into gear will immediately drop that to ~600 RPM, so you really don't know if any change in whine is do to the transmission being in gear, or simply to the change in engine RPM.

I'd also take the cap off the power steering reservoir and see if there is any fluid aeration during the 'whining'. Moisture-contaminated fluid in either the PS system or the transmission can cause cavitation and whining.

The torque converter in the A750 series transmissions is pretty bullet-proof, a hard mechanical failure in the TC itself is rare.

Knowing when the transmission fluid was last serviced would be useful.