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Oil additive on bill for oil change

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#1 ·
Forgive the noobishness... I've been going to the dealership for my oil changes (because i'm an idiot), mostly since i was told there was a "required" oil additive. I've searched the forums here, and even some on the internet and can only seem to find, optional but not neccessary or even potientally damageing additives available.

So, 1. does anyone have any clue or has any one seen what this is from the dealer? 2. is it required or can i finally start saving my money and going to a grease mokey type place and getting s- done for ALOT LESS..

Thanks for the help.. and let the flaming begin.. :flamed:
 
#2 ·
Your FJ requires no additional additives other than the engine oil to complete your oil change requirements.

It sure sounds like you were upsold by the service writer and didn't even know it. Service departments shmoooze a lot of folks into trusting whatever they tell them their vehicle needs. I bet they'll be glad to change your oil and not charge for the extra crap you don't need as long as you are informed about what it needs and don't let them hose you again.

You can always resort to the old fashioned way and actually crack open the maintenance booklet that came with it. It tells you what is required, and is written by the manufacturer not a profiteering dealership service writer.
 
#3 ·
I would bet that Toyota frowns upon oil additives and probably warns against using them. I hope they didn't charge you any extra for it, if they did, I would go get my money back.

DEWFPO
 
#4 · (Edited)
I would bet that Toyota frowns upon oil additives and probably warns against using them. I hope they didn't charge you any extra for it, if they did, I would go get my money back.

DEWFPO
Yes, it does state in the "Owner's Warranty Information" booklet under the section that outlines what is not covered:

Lack of or improper maintenance, including use of fluids other than those specified in the Owners Manual

You and I both know they just didn't throw it in for free out of the goodness of their heart, they have to buy these hi-tech additives from some guy with a truck and he has a family to feed too.

Sounds like you may have just become eligible for a few oil changes at no charge or a refund of your over-charge from your favorite dealerhsip.
 
#6 ·
There's nothing wrong with an engine oil additive, some companies actually make useful products (Gasp, ... believe it). Don't be disappointed that the dealer may actually want to help your vehicle last a long time and recommend services that go above and beyond what your maintenance book tells you (i.e. flushing fluids early, switching to higher grade oils and fluids) Face the facts, the maintenance guide is based on cost of ownership during the warranty period. The least the manufacturer says you should do to your car or truck makes it seem like their product is the most cost beneficial to their competition.. People want to know their car costs less to own than the others. But that's just not the way it is. Want an example? GM's antifreeze is supposed to last up to 100,000 miles... but when that contaminated and erosive antifreeze has eaten away at the paper and plastic gaskets and caused a leak at 80k, costing you much-o bucks, do you think GM will cover it? No... because antifreeze hasn't changed, oils haven't changed, nothing has changed. So change them often. Honda, practically the longest lasting cars on the road, have the worst automatic transmission fluid in the industry... but they don't ever recommend flushing it. They hardly even recommend draining and filling it (which is quite useless, anyway). But when that transmission fails after the warranty period because the fluid is black and has clutch material floating around, you definitely don't see Honda take care of the bill on your rebuilt transmission you just had to install. So preventative maintenance should be handled smart, which means you will be spending money... Do you spend $1,200 every 30,000 miles in major service to do it right, or do you wait until something catastrophic happens to your vehicle?... I drive 15,000 miles a year...and hey... breaking it down to $600 a year plus oil changes sounds like the winning decision.