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HOW TO: Headliner Removal + Dynamat install

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#1 ·
I took on this project because of the large amount of wind noise while on the highway from my ARB roof rack and lights. The goal of this project was to dynamat the entire roof while keeping to a strict budget. Dynamat is used to kill vibrations, NOT stop sound which means another layer of sound deadening should be used. Because of the limited budget I opted to pick up a roll of foam carpet pad/liner from Home Depot. I figured this would be extremely similar to the expensive stuff at a fraction of the cost

Supplies

1 bulk pack of Dynamat - 144$ shipped
1 can of 3M super adhesive - 10$
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1 large roll of carpet padding - 30$
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utility knife - 2$
Time - $$$$$$$$$$$
Total Cost approx. 200$

Warnings:
1) This will take a very long time and a lot of energy
2) If not done carefully it will ruin your headliner
3) Dynamat will cut your hands


Step one
remove everything connected to the headliner. This includes hand holds, rear mirror, weather stripping around doors, rear hooks. Basically everything that is connected to the the headliner must be removed. Also the rear side panels will need to be disconnected and pulled out. They are held in by one bolt behind the Airbag emblem, a screw located in the rear hook and a push button plastic clip located near the rear glass. It is held in by many plastic clips so a good tug is necessary to pull it away from the body.
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Note the bolt behind the Airbag button
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Step Two: TWO people are required to do this next step which is dropping down the headliner. At this point it should want to drop but will still be held in place by the large side plastic panels. You must pull the edges carefully out from behind them and now the headliner will drop and rest on the seats.
I was unable to remove the headliner from the FJ because it would not fit through the rear door. I did not want to bend corners or remove any other panels so I worked around the panel. It was dificult at times but manageable and saved the effort of removing other panels or damaging the headliner.
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Step Three: Start installing Dynamat. Be sure that it is warm and soft before the install so that it can be installed easily. Start at one end and use a roller to smooth it out over the roof making sure to push it into all the areas and removing bubbles. Take your time and really work it onto the metal roof. I had enough Dynamat to install two layers on the front half of the FJ over the passengers heads.
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Step Four: Measure and cut squares of the carpet liner and apply the 3M adhesive spray to both the dynamat and the liner allowing time to tack up. Now start at one corner and push the liner onto the dynamat making sure contact is made.
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Step Five
: Reverse the disassemble of the headliner and reinstall everything. Its important to start at the front of the headliner to align and work backwards. Everything will line up smoothly as you go along. Make sure you hands are clean

Enjoy the quiet!
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#2 ·
Also if you are planning to take the headliner out you will need to cut the speaker and light wires. I initially planned on doing this so i had to cut them but later found that was unnecessary. make sure to spice them together before install! I also blew a fuse that is located in the Engine bay because i didn't disconnect the battery first. If you blow this fuse you will not only have no lights but your electric car opener will NOT work also. I have no clue why.....
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#7 ·
Nice install, now you need to add some shag carpet over the padding.
 
#12 ·
I am going to add this to my must do's seems simple indeed. Props great write up
 
#14 ·
Good work! I'm surprised you did it with the headliner resting on the seats. I know my clumsy ass would have fell or bumped into the headliner, or worse yet... drop stuff on it. I'm would assume the headliner would come out easily if the seats were removed.

-B
 
#16 ·
It was difficult but the seats are not the issue with removing. It looks as though the rear panels are what keep it from coming out at an angle. Even if you tilt the headliner on its side its still wont slide out easily without damaging the edges.

How much do the headliners weigh?
next to nothing. Its very light and it did no damage resting on the seats for 24 hours.
 
#18 ·
Nice writeup, Mark!

I'm really getting tired of hearing the wind noise myself, so I might just do this (only sans Dynomat). I'm not sure what kind of insulation I'll use, but I might go with the same polystyrene foam panels I put on my garage door; I'll just cut them to fit the area I need.

Appreciate the photos, it really helps take the mystery out of what's behind that headliner!
 
#20 ·
I did a similiar thing.... dynamatted the entire car and I felt it made a substantial difference. It rained the week before i put it in and boy did that bother me... just the noise.

I havent done the back door yet and all the noise comes from that and thats how I compare.

Most car noise comes from the air flow over the metal and it vibrating to a hum and dynamat helps that. to do my entire car with dynamat and sound dampener (for me 1/4 closed dense foam) cost about 350 bucks.

I took a trip to vegas the week after and I could really tell a difference. My fj doesnt have carpet (but it does have insulation under the feet)

It was actually easier than most people say, but it just takes forever (but I did the entire truck so seats and everything came out.
 
#21 ·
Damn it... while removing some of the fasteners on the headliner I managed to get the headliner dirty!

Anyone know how to clean the headliner without permanently staining or messing it up?

Also on a side note I finished the rear door yesterday and it made a HUGE difference. If you guys take look at the FJ there is almost ZERO sound insulation throughout the entire vehicle!

-B
 
#22 ·
Damn it... while removing some of the fasteners on the headliner I managed to get the headliner dirty!

Anyone know how to clean the headliner without permanently staining or messing it up?
dilute oxyclean worked for me

T
 
#26 ·
Nice job!!
 
#27 ·
I would like to take this further. I would like to this yet I would like to have 1. sound dampening 2. good R value and reflective such as Natural Cotton Fiber Insulation, Natural Cellulose Insulation 3. making sure it will not be affected by high temp and vapor. I am looking for maximum results without maximum price.

Also, using an electric meat cutter would cut carpet liner without it breaking apart. What is the estimated square footage of the roof?
 
#28 ·
Since I just did my roof I can tell you its just shy of 32 sq ft. I got 36 sq ft and will do the a pillars before it goes back together. Hope you don't mind that I chimed in on your great thread
Thanks for the write-up. After I did mine I read it and it follows the procedure I used pretty well except I took my headliner out,
thanks
Don
 
#30 ·
Very nice write-up and follow-up guys.. That's some serious luxury mods and yes, the FJ seems to have no sound deadening whatsoever. Fortunately for me, I drove Jeeps for ten years prior to buying the FJ and it's almost too quite for me. When I first bought it I had to leave the window down a little as the quietness spooked me..LOL.. Same with the ride actually.. The FJ makes me sort-a lazy on the big road. It took both hands to keep the jeeps in the lane at 80MPH, but the FJ does it on it's own..LOL Cheers.. Ron
 
#35 ·
WOO... I just ordered the Dynamat to do my headliner and rear quarter panels. My front doors and rear door have been done already and I cant wait to hear the inside all deadened up. I too plan on adding a lot of carpet padding and some expanding foam for the cavities in the read door and a-pillars.

Post some pics on the areas that your going to use the foam on. It would be nice to see also.