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Corey while reading some other posts I saw your rig in your signature and thought.. man I gotta compliment this guy on a killer camping setup.

Now I stumble across this great article of yours. Terrific job and a fabulous rig.
 
Discussion starter · #62 ·
Darn it Corey...you're always making me want to buy stuff. I need to find excuses to buy this.:bangin:
He he, sorry :D
The table is pretty cool.
After pondering how I set it up, I am going to try it again, but this time the poles will be set in place on the stand first, then put the table top on top and pull it to separate it a bit, then get the top poles to snap in.

Corey while reading some other posts I saw your rig in your signature and thought.. man I gotta compliment this guy on a killer camping setup.

Now I stumble across this great article of yours. Terrific job and a fabulous rig.
Thanks Air, I really appreciate it.
Your rig has come a very long way and is a killer rig.

I am glad I have taken the path that my rig is ending up as.
It will get me out more into the wilderness, and not have to worry about coming back home the same day.

My goal is pretty much to be self contained, and to be able to camp for a week or more out of the rig.

Oh, one more item was shipped with the roll top table, but I am not going to demo it :D
 
Discussion starter · #63 ·
Kelty Shadehouse 12

Another non field test.

I have had a picnic table shelter for years that I bought back around '82 or so.
It consists of a large green tarp with five holes in it via grommets.
You use a pole at each end, and a center pole to go on top of the picnic table.

Each pole then must have two guylines on it and staked out at each corner.
Needless to say, it was a royal PITA to setup.
I did it myself for years, then the kids helped me when they were older.

I did not want to use it again after getting back into camping this season, as it takes maybe thirty minutes or so for one person to setup.

Hence my quest to find an easier shelter to setup, and I saw this one online on the Cabela's site.

Kelty Shadehouse 12

This item comes in two sizes.
Shadehouse 10
center height 80"
floor size 10-ft. x 10-ft.
Weight 8 lbs. 3 oz.

Shadehouse 12
center height 85"
floor size 12-ft. x 12-ft.
weight 8 lbs. 14 oz.

I went with the bigger model, the 12' one for additional space.
It comes packed in a nice nylon bag that is not much bigger than some backpacking tents.
This will store very nicely in my rig right behind my drivers seat on top of the Hi-Lift Handle-All unit I have stored there.

Here are some pictures I took today on setting it up.

Here is the bag after you take it out of the shipping box the way Cabela's ships it out.

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Contents of bag:
Inner nylon bag for the two aluminum DAC poles.
A word on the poles, DAC poles are much stronger and lighter than fiberglass poles.
This is the first product I have own that uses these type of poles, and I like them much better over the fiberglass style.

The shelter itself.

Small nylon bag for the tent stakes and the tie down guylines.

Instruction sheet (which I scanned in)

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A few pictures showing it setup.
Setup was very easy.
1. Unfold the poles, they are all shock corded, and after assembling one, I laid it on the ground and repeated for the other pole.

2. Spread open the shelter, and start inserting a pole in.
After it is all the way through, use the end pins and lock the poles in in that way so the pole will not move, and also use the plastic clips at each end (one clip per end) to secure the end of the fabric to the pole.

3. Repeat with the other pole.
Inserting the second pole takes a little more time, as the structure starts to raise up in the air, and you have to fight a little resistance in getting the second pole all the way to the end of its sleeve.

4. Once the second pole is all locked in, you can then go to the center of the structure and raise it up manually.
Once positioned, it will stay that way.
After it is where you want it, then you can stake down the four corners and also use the included guylines to keep it stable in the wind.

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My neighbors Jeep could probably drive right in underneath the unit and fit.
I am about 5'10", and there was about 6" or so to spare above my head when walking underneath of it.
This should cover the average picnic table encountered in most campgrounds, which is the main reason I bought this for.

Here are the instructions from Kelty that I scanned in.

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I would say it took me about 10 minutes or so this first time in setting it up.
I am sure it will go much faster the second time, it normally does once you acquaint yourself with setting it up prior to a trip.

Yeah, I know, I still have to setup the Cabela's shower enclosure too.
Maybe this week...
 
Has anyone used the REI Camp Kitchen? It is on sale for $69.
Sorry I'm a little late on this one.

Yes I picked one up in the sale they had. I like it a lot just used it the other night at home to have extra space for BBQ I was throwing.

I will post on it more in depth later.
 
Nice review on the Kelty !! this is something that I am really interested in !! I bring E/Z up and they take u a lot of room so this will be a nice room saver.. and looks like its a great price as well...

Thanks for taking the time Corey !!
 
Discussion starter · #66 ·
You are welcome Boss.
Here is another shelter that gets rave reviews on Cabela's.
But...it requires a full size picnic table.
Shelter Logic Shade Logic Quick Clamp Canopy

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More on it too

I did not buy it because a lot of my camping for '09 will be in the shadow of Mt. Rainier in the forest service land where there are only places to pull into to camp, and you supply your own table.

This Kelty shelter will be perfect for the Cabela's picnic table I use.
 
Re: Kelty Shadehouse 12

Another non field test.

I have had a picnic table shelter for years that I bought back around '82 or so.
It consists of a large green tarp with five holes in it via grommets.
You use a pole at each end, and a center pole to go on top of the picnic table.

Each pole then must have two guylines on it and staked out at each corner.
Needless to say, it was a royal PITA to setup.
I did it myself for years, then the kids helped me when they were older.

I did not want to use it again after getting back into camping this season, as it takes maybe thirty minutes or so for one person to setup.

Hence my quest to find an easier shelter to setup, and I saw this one online on the Cabela's site.

Kelty Shadehouse 12
Shade is nice, but it's something I can manage to do without. A pair of sunglasses and a baseball cap are really all that I need. A tree (when available) is also useful. FWIW, I think the Kelty Shadehouse seems WAY too big to use in most of the campsites and campgrounds that I've been to and the EZ-Up's that I've seen are just too big and heavy to bring along.

However, I am happy to report that I did use the Instant Sun Cabana for as a potty tent on a 3 day tour of the Rubicon Trail and it worked GREAT!

No effort to set up (just pops open) and takes just a little practice to learn how to take down. It's tall enough to sit in on the potty w/o hitting your head (but not tall enough to stand in) and you can't shower in it, but that's not what I intended to use it for. It's susceptible to wind, but it comes w/stakes and guy lines to secure it, which was also easy to do.

A privacy tent isn't really necessary if you're out in the woods alone, but that's seldom the case when you're in a campground and certainly not the case when you're traveling in a group. So, if you're looking for any easy to use and store potty tent, I highly recommend the Instant Sun Cabana -- you can also use it on the beach, as intended. ;)
 
Discussion starter · #68 ·
Re: Kelty Shadehouse 12

Shade is nice, but it's something I can manage to do without. A pair of sunglasses and a baseball cap are really all that I need. A tree (when available) is also useful. FWIW, I think the Kelty Shadehouse seems WAY too big to use in most of the campsites and campgrounds that I've been to and the EZ-Up's that I've seen are just too big and heavy to bring along.
Except I did not buy this for shade.
I have the Camping Labs awning for that.

This is to keep the contents of my picnic table, kitchen, stove, ect. dry when it rains.

According to Murphy's Law here in WA. state, it will more than likely rain on your summer camping trip, even if the weather forecasters say sunny and clear.
It rained on me my first night up at Mt. Rainier, and there was no rain in the forecast.
 
Re: Kelty Shadehouse 12

Except I did not buy this for shade.
I have the Camping Labs awning for that.

This is to keep the contents of my picnic table, kitchen, stove, ect. dry when it rains.
OIC.

When it rains, I'd just hunker down under a simple lean-to in my rain gear or in regular wear in my tent w/rain fly. I only use a JetBoil to boil water to "cook" my dehydrated food or to prepare some tea/coffee, which I can easily do in the tent (or just outside in the vestibule) and the rest of the gear can stay in the FJ.

We obviously have very different camping philosophies. :cheers:
 
Discussion starter · #70 ·
Re: Kelty Shadehouse 12

OIC.
We obviously have very different camping philosophies. :cheers:
Yes we do :D
I use to be that way 20 to 30 years ago when I backpacked.
Now that I am reaching retirement age here in 10 years, I like having some luxuries when camping.
Especially if I am going to leave camp setup for a week at a time.
 
Re: Kelty Shadehouse 12

Yes we do :D
I use to be that way 20 to 30 years ago when I backpacked.
Now that I am reaching retirement age here in 10 years, I like having some luxuries when camping.
Especially if I am going to leave camp setup for a week at a time.
I'm already retired.

However, I still retain my backpacker mentality and try to travel as "light" as possible, but do make a few concessions to car camping "luxury" which includes bringing along a roll-up table, Coleman lantern, folding sling chair & stool, bucket toilet w/WagBags, and the pop-up cabana (or traditional privacy) tent for potty use. ;)

I don't like the hassle of carrying (and cleaning up after cooking) "real" food and (not to mention all of the other stuff you need bring along to cook and eat "real" food with), so I'll probably always stick with freeze dried meals (just pour water in the bag and eat out of that w/a spoon), Cliff and other energy bars and trail mix, while camping, but, if I ever get the expedition trailer that I'm thinking of buying (which will be a HUGE luxury), I'll probably also get an ARB frig to carry cold beer and sodas in. :bigthumb:
 
Discussion starter · #72 ·
I am just the opposite when camping, at least my two sons use to say that when I cooked for them when they were much younger when we camped.

I go all out when it comes to cooking outdoors, and I probably eat more gourmet when camping than I do when I cook at home.

Food tastes better to me when outdoors in the fresh mountain air.
I lived on freeze dried food when backpacking up at Mt. Rainier years ago, it is nice to live it up when out camping.
 
Discussion starter · #73 ·
An update to the battery powered pump for a 5 gallon water cooler bottle.
As seen above in the review and the same picture below, you can see that the pump is not secured to the bottle in the first picture.
It never did tighten, and I found out why earlier in the week.

We have a water delivery guy at work and I was talking to him about it, and he asked me if my bottle had the screw on cap for when you want to secure the contents when transporting it.
I said it did, and he said the bottles they use with his company use a press on cap, not a screw on cap.

I asked where I might obtain a water bottle like he has on his truck, and he smiled and he gave me one :D

Took it home and sure enough, the battery water pump works perfect with it.
You insert it all the way on the bottle, then tighten up the collar that presses onto the bottle.

Now I will have no more loose water pump going back and forth om me.
You can see in the first picture how the pump is at an angle because it is not secured to the bottle.
Although it worked perfectly well that way, it is nice to now have the pump secure and not move around.

Guess I will have to see if I have another big ARB sticker handy to put on the new bottle, or I will just drop by ARB after work and pick up some more stickers ;)

Old bottle with the pump leaning to the side.

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New bottle with the pump secured, and the old bottle next to it on the right showing the threads on the neck.
This is not the type of bottle that works with the pump.


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Haha, damn Corey, you live more comfortably in camp than i do at my apartment. The only time I really car camp is in the winter, when all the high altitude trails are snowed over and I can't pack in. Well I could, but I was never really into snow camping. I was impressed by that fold up picnic table, that was pretty cool.

Anyways, thanks for doing the reviews. It is cool to see whats out there, even if I don't need or want the stuff.

Food tastes better to me when outdoors in the fresh mountain air.
I lived on freeze dried food when backpacking up at Mt. Rainier years ago, it is nice to live it up when out camping.
It certainly does Corey, I can't disagree with that. That one beer that I carried in the backcountry tastes amazing at 9000' after a long day of hiking. Combine that with some inventive use of aluminum foil and a boboli shell for pizza on the first night and that's absolute heaven for me.

I don't know if you're still backpacking or not, but freeze dried has come a long way since the days you speak of in the 80s. I remember when I first started 6-7 years ago, you took freeze dried because of the weight, but you had to choke it down. However, the last couple of years Mountain House, Backpacker's Pantry and Natural High brands have come a long way. If you're still packing, i highly recommend it.
 
Discussion starter · #75 ·
Have not back packed in years, but I still have all of my stuff.

Yeah, I tried some Mountain House pasta dish when I was up at Rainier during this review, and it tasted pretty good.
I carry a whole assortment of that stuff in my bug out kit I keep on my rear door including a backpacking stove, utensils, everything needed to have food for a few days if I have to hunker down somewhere.

But yes, food and everything tastes better at high altitude and when in the fresh air.
The camp I was at is around 5K' feet or so I believe.
 
Discussion starter · #77 ·
Thanks.

Zero wind noise from the tent.
The only thing I do not like is it sits up to high with the stock rack, thus effecting the handling some.

It is worse when it is really windy at around 55 to 60 MPH driving.

Working on a solution to get the tent much lower, waiting to hear back from a member who had an idea for me.
 
pls take this w/out offence but your set-up is five star luxury compared to me. Ive been used to what i call bivy. actually theres no bivy involved, just slap a sleeping bag on the ground and good night. My other hi-tech camping gadget that i use for mountaineering is a portable stove. I like what youve made.

Campmor and Sierra Trading are other good places to shop for special prices as well as REI outlet.
 
Discussion starter · #79 ·
No offense at all.
I use to camp like that too when I was a young pup.

Now that I am nearing geriatric age, I like some luxury.
It is far less luxurious than having a trailer or RV though.

Gotta climb down the ladder to piss though :D
Whooops, that is not true.
I bought an autojohn to relieve myself for the upcoming season.
Stay tuned for a full review :D
Sorry, I will with hold the pics on that review though.
 
Very Nice write up! I had the firefly back in the day.... Glad to know that there are some better options out there...
 
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