Good info, but it seems that the newer Scepter jerry cans are what most people want these days.

 

I'm an active duty Marine.

I have "Scepter" cans coming out my @ss...

I use them all the time.

I hate them.

The only good thing about a plastic can is the weight when you have to carry it miles across the desert. Other than that they are inferior. And they DO leak more often. They also wear out from rattling in the gypsy racks. Wears a hole right through them.

 

Yep I love the NATO cans. The best. Do not waist your time or money on plastic.

 

How may 20 litre cans of gas and water do you recommend?

 

depends on where you are going. Out for the day on the trail? Going out for a week long expedition??? If you are going expedition, try to use 2 wheel drive as much as you can to save on gas consumption.

 

I'll be spending the next 2 years in Africa with the FJ.

One can each of Water and Fuel is enough for the short trips I will be making.

And good enough to get me between fuel locations on the longer trips.

I'll throw some "disposable" Specter cans on the roof rack for any long trips, but the Wavian cans are gonna stay on the rig no matter what.

 

I'll have a two jerry can (lockable) rack with hi-jack (lockable) mount that attaches to the existing 4 bolts on the rear door for the spare tire fabbed up by the end of next week.

If I'm gonna make one, I might as well make two or three.

If anyone is interested, PM me.

I understand that nobody wants to get on line for something they haven't seen pics of yet, but if I knew how many were at least interested, I could make a good run, buy more material at once, and reduce the individual cost.

I would be willing to quote for powdercoated or bare metal as well. That's up to the demand.

Not the best welder on Earth, but better than most, and I don't think a gas can rack is going to take me more than a few hours to complete.

Some of my past work (not FJ related, but you get the picture):

The beam above went on my 55 below (hence my user name). I made the trailer from scratch as well.

Let me know who's interested, and I'll have an idea of the individual cost.

Right now I would be shooting for the 500 dollar range with powdercoat. More or less depending on how many I make at one time.

I'll post up some pics when I make up the first one to assemble a jig.

 

I acutally just used one of my five gallon cans to refill on the trail for the first time. It sucked..... super slow flow rate. It probably took me at least 15 min to get five gallons in the tank. There is no breather to prevent a vacume from forming as the gas pours out, so I had to tip it back every few seconds to let the air rush in so gas could come back out. It sucked. I just have the standard Blitz metal red cans. The cans are fine... the spout is the issue.

 

The Wavian NATO Jerry cans now come with an EPA and CARB compliant spout that actually pours as well as any other can.

 

Yeah, that's pretty much the story everywhere with Blitz cans.

The shape of the mouth, the internal venting, and the spout make all the difference.

Blitz cans look O.K., but if you're going to actually use them, you're going to want to upgrade to the WEDCO or WAVIAN can.

 

Thanks.... Looks like I'll be upgrading. I do use mine. This was the first time I've used mine while on the trail, but I've helped a few stranded folks along the highway.

 

Another option for you might also be a super siphon hose.

Super Siphon - Expedition Exchange Incorporated

You could keep the can you have and just keep the hose in the rig.

 

OR you could use that to get gas from the Jeeps and Hummers left on the side of the trail. Then no gas cans to worry about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I had the NATO style Wedco on the roof of my 4Runner.
Very good can.
I had bought it from Generator Joe, and online shop.

I may have to look into these new ones, as I do not have the Wedco can anymore.

 

Generator Joe doesn't even carry cans anymore.

Cheap used ones can be had from cheaperthandirt.com as NATO surplus.

 

Hey 55reasons - here are the pics you wanted:

According to the UPS tracking website- my new Wavian fuel & water cans got mis-sorted are are supposed to be delivered today. It's 6:36 p.m., and they ain't showed up yet. (grrrr)

The Cheaper Than Dirt NATO cans showed up 2 days ago. As you can see, one looks practically brand new. The other has some paint and tape marks on it. What a deal for $19 !!

As an added bonus- I found a U.S. can mount at an estate sale a few weeks back. His U.S. fuel and water cans were too far gone to save, but I picked up the holder for $12.00. Figured it would be great to mount on a trailer. (I've just got to bang out the corner where somebody backed it into something!)

Zip me your e-mail in a PM and I'll send you a blow up photo of the German brand markings on the NATO can if you need to read them (the 'brand' is Bellino.)

-Mike

 

Whats wrong with standard plastic fuel cans?
I've used them for a few years four-wheeling, camping, mud-riding, everything and I've never had a problem.
I understand getting metal cans if you're going to be putting them on your roof, but otherwise...???

 

Think of it as the difference between a Bic lighter and a Zippo lighter.

That's the easiest way I can put it.

I'm an active duty jarhead, and I have worn out and thrown away more plastic fuel cans than I care to recall.

On the other hand, REAL NATO spec Jerry cans live longer than I probably will.

 

feel free to throw any plastic jerry cans my way.....back in the day when we still could find metal jerry cans with our deuces and hummers....i wish I would have kept a few when we started getting rid of them.

 

X2 on this Super Siphon - Expedition Exchange Incorporated

or the good old fashioned way of a funnel in the filler tube, remove the cap and tilt.
Screw messin with those carb nozzles. I still dont understand the concept behind them. I spill more out onto my truck and the ground when I plugged them in due to flow backup than the old bendy tube style.

 

I just got two of the Wavian cans from GW online. I also got two of the vertical holders and found a good way with a few bits of hardware to mount them horizontally to my Gobi rack. I don't think I want these on my roof all the time but I will take them when I go far enough out.

The quality is very good but they are hard to open and close. The holder is a pain in the ass to open too once it is clipped shut.

 

They'll wear in nice.

 

Those are great looking cans. The price is reasonable.

 

I just ordered a couple of the red NATO cans from Garrett Wade and will give a report (with pics, comparing them to the scepters) when they arrive.

 

I got two wedco cans on order from expeditionexchange.com along with a daystar winch isolator to keep down.

Only wish they would have been here before frickin Gustav with all the gas and electricity shortages around town.

 

I just found a site that sells new scepters. A lil pricey but cheaper than the $100. on eBay. Paid $163.23 for two and that's including shipping. Working on a deal for possible group buy. Ill keep ya posted here in a couple days

 

Why would you pay that much for plastic gas cans as opposed to steel for 60 bucks cheaper?

 

For a number of reasons....weight, lack of noise, user friendliness(don't scratch or dent) and they look better IMO

 

For those looking for Scepter cans, you can still get them in Canada for about $50 and have them shipped to the U.S.

 

I just purchase 7-20L Nato cans and 4-10L cans from Atlantic British. Atlantic British - Land Rover Parts & Land Rover Accessories | Range Rover, Discovery, LR3, LR2, Defender, Freelander and Land Rover Series Parts & Accessories They are identical to wedco in every way including the "V" on the side of the can. However, since they are OD instead of Red they do not have DOT stamped on the side.

The price was $32.95 for the 20L and $29.95 for the 10L. Plus I received free shipping.

If you want any I highly recommend you get all the NATO and Scepter fuel cans you can. Once Jan 2009 rolls around they will be hot items on Ebay.

 

Have you recieved them yet, just curious as to the quality.

 

Yes, I had received them before I had posted up. After comparing them side-by-side to my brother's Red Wedcos I can safely say there is no difference we can find, other than the lack of DOT stamped on the body.

If they were not made with the same dies I would be amazed.